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Tertipu Di Dunia Lebih Baik Dari Tertipu Di Akhirat

Being cheated in this world is better than being cheated in the hereafter. That is basically the literal translation of the title.

Needless to say, Malaysia Bankruptcy Day that didn’t happen. Do we need to be economist to tell that? I consider this as one of the biggest blunders in the blog world by a person who believes he belongs to the smartest elite while others who do not subscribe to his believe as “dungu” and “moron”.

It is an open secret that he is one of the most ardent anti-hadith in Malaysia. He is the beacon of reference by anti-Hadith in Malaysia, fooling unsuspecting and ignorant readers about his so call “advanced” Islamic ideology. As we and many have said again and again, he is a crook with crooked understanding of Islam and religion. Just as his prediction about Malaysia Bankruptcy has become the biggest blunder, do we really believe that his so call Quranist ideology will not be another blunder?

When he claimed that Malaysia will be bankrupt by 11 July, anyone with little understanding of economy already LMAO. What about all his claimed that the hadiths which have been believed by billions of Muslim for more than 1400 are nothing but fairy tale?

The only difference is if you believe in his economy theory, you may get cheated in this world. But if you believe in his religious theory, by the time you realize it, it may be too late. Let me quote from Quran in retrospect to his liking to quote from Quran as well.

When those who have been followed disassociate themselves from those who followed [them], and they [all] see the punishment, and cut off from them are the ties

Those who followed will say, “If only we had another turn [at worldly life] so we could disassociate ourselves from them as they have disassociated themselves from us.” Thus will Allah show them their deeds as regrets upon them. And they are never to emerge from the Fire.

[Al-Baqarah 166-167]

By the way, didn’t he said “…those who trolled him misunderstood his blog posting. it was merely a reminder of what could happen if 1MDB lost the case in LCIA.”

Diminishing Anti-Hadith Spitting Venom at Muslim Majority

The renowned Malaysian anti-hadith, Syed Akhbar Ali is at work again. This time he is spitting out his utmost venomous hatred toward the sunni Muslim majority. If you read his article Universal Relevance Versus Jaguh Kampong Irrelevance not knowing who wrote it, you would probably thought that it was written by some Islam-phobic non-Muslim. This is no other than an act out of desperation from a desperate anti-hadith who sees his ideology is not going anywhere in main stream acceptance of ideologies.

Many of his points are not worth commenting because they are the result of his distorted ideology. I will focus on few venomous, yet idiotic accusation to the Muslim in general.

He says “If tomorrow an alien space ship were to appear and suck up all the Muslims and disappear into the sky, there would not be much of a negative impact on the lives of other human beings on earth.

Well, he should ask the question, if they alien suck him up, would the world feel a lost? While he points his finger to others, he forgot that the other 3 are pointing back at him. In other word, he is no better than the people he tries to accuse.

The point is that if his ideology is so superior, he should be solving worlds problem right now, or inventing Toyota, Peugeot or Volkswagen. But what we have seen is that he is the one who constantly despise Proton, the only effort by Muslim to make car while he himself can’t even make a bolt in a car.

He said Muslim don’t sing anything popular on the chart. Well, may be not to your taste because not all Muslim listen to western songs. But there are many beautiful pieces of music being produce in many other parts of the Muslim world (including Malaysia). In Bollywood alone, many of their famous musicians and choreographers are Muslim. So it is an utmost ignorance in generalization.

Muslim may not produce branded cloth, but they are know to produce the best cloth, leather wear and clothing items. Countries like Pakistan, Egypt and Bangladesh are famous for their cotton industry. To accuse Muslim not able to make underwear is an utmost lie. Either he is ignorant or his hatred blind him from seeing the reality. In some Muslim countries, clothing products are their main export. So you are saying that they can’t produce underwear while their leather jacket, cashmere wool product are highly sought after even in the western world? Egypt, despite all its problems is one self sustaining country. They produce almost everything for their own consumption from food, cloth to daily thing. But as a shopkeeper for a gold shop, his world is the internet (reading the internet while waiting for customer). He does not have real hands on to travel, live and see how others are living their life and yet he spit out venomous accusation from his arm chair.

His whole point is to call people upon his anti hadith ideology. Calling people to return to the Quran is fine. But the reality is that he is asking people to follow his band of interpretation of Quran and the whole load of his distorted ideology. We do not want to argue about his ideology here, but we shall ask the readers to judge him based on what he likes to accuse others.

Our premise is simple. If the majority of Muslims who follow the Ahlul Sunnah teaching is so backward, he has to show to the world, how forward are the people who follow his ideology. Give us some names of the Quraniun who has utmost contribution to the world in science, technology and business. At least he should show to the world that he is the living example of progress and success. But what we see is that he is nothing but a banker turned gold shopkeeper. Has he ever (or able) to make an underwear on his own? I bet he can’t even produce the jewellery on his own. He merely take it from the “kafir” goldsmith and sell it in his shop.

Let us look at his mahaguru, Kassim Ahmad who is known for similarity with his ideology. What has Kassim Ahmad contributed to the society? Has he ever produced an underwear? He is old and dying (almost like an alien going to suck him up), does the world missing him? All we see is that his entire life working as teacher, lecturer in insignificant fields like hikayat hang tuah and African studies.

I am sorry to bring Kassim Ahmad into picture. It is not my intention to diminish his life or work. Put aside his ideology, in actual fact, there is nothing wrong with what he is doing. Everybody has their own capacity and scope of work. But for an anti hadith like Syed Akhbar Ali to go around spitting venomous accusation to the Muslim majority while he and his ideology is no better than others (or worse), it is utmost disgusting. He has been appointed to “help” the government combating corruption, but really what is his contribution? Has corruption went down after the government received his “con-sultant” services? In this simple task, he has failed miserably.

In actual fact, all his accusations are inaccurate. There are many Muslims around the world who are much more successful and contributing more to the betterment of the world. They just never boast about it. But as a shopkeeping in a gold shop, he may be too naive to see it and yet he wants to boast how great his ideology is.

Let us all ask him one simple question, has he ever produce his own underwear? Well for me, I may not as well, but if Google and WordPress decided to close the blog, at least I can still write my own blog software from scratch.

Hypocrisy of Syed Akhbar Ali is at Play again

The hypocrisy of Syed Akhbar Ali (the Anti Hadith) is at work again. This time he is trying to con people about the topic of Riba and bank interest. He wrote 3 parts of it, but this reply is referring to his 2nd part as the first does not contain much argument except an introduction. My response to his post is at the end of this article. But what I want to show all of you is the hypocrisy of this Syed Akhbar Ali.

To proof my point, first, I posted some generic praise to him as anonymous. The praise reads

Anonymous Anonymous said…
Wow, this is indeed a mind boggling article that will indeed challenge the accepted norms in the Islamic world.
It needs critical and analytical mind to fully understand the content of this article.

Saturday, March 22, 2014 6:00:00 AM

Guess what, he happily released the post. But when I posted the responses to his writing, no where you can see they appear. This is outright hypocrite. He wrote 50 “Unworthy Names” In Saudi Arabia? Please la Mr. Syed. Don’t be such a hypocrite. You criticize others of banning names while you also ban any view that is against yours. You are afraid that people will know the truth that you con them to treat you like a mahaguru (anti-hadith).

In your 3rd post, you simply accused others of calling you names but you are afraid to show what they wrote. Ini macam baling batu sembunyi tangan. By the way, you also call them names like moron, monkey, etc. Worse, you accused them but not showing what they actually wrote. This is outright evil and hypocrite from someone who pretend he is sitting on such a high intellectual ground. In reality you are just a coward hypocrite who is afraid that they will reveal you lies. Too bad there are many foolish people (sorry I really have to call those people foolish) because they are treating you like a mahaguru. Some to the extend of copy and saving your writing.

Anyway, here is my response which does not see daylight in Syed blog.


It is almost unanimously agreed that the conventional bank interest is riba (although there are some unconvincing argument that goes against it), but the focus of the discussion is the arguments by Syed which we will simply show you how you get con by his whims and fancies.

No doubt, etymologically, the word riba means increase. But increase in what sense? Here is where you see how this Syed con you. By mere reference to some translated versions of Quran, he came into conclusion of riba as double, triple and quadruple in profiting or in summary profiteering from a business transaction.

Islam never put a cap on the amount of profit one can make from a business transaction. What prohibited is over profiting by exploiting the ignorance of buyer. For instance, to sell a bottle of mineral water for RM 20 to a tourist who just arrived in this country for the first time not knowing how much the actual mineral water being sold in the market whereas the in actual market, it only cost RM 2 is an example of over profiting in an illegal way.

However, if the buyer is well aware of the market price and is willing to pay for it, then there is no harm. There is a clear wisdom behind it. The intrinsic value of a product cannot be determined extrinsically. For example, 2 pieces of jewellery may take the same amount of gold to produce, but when sold, it could be of different value due to workmanship, availability and uniqueness. Let me ask you, how much is the cost of getting a diamond? But usually diamonds are sold may be hundreds of times the cost of producing it due it its rarity. So does that constitute riba? By Syed definition, yes because you are not only doubled but multiplied by hundred of times. By syed definition, artist will be indulging in largest amount of riba. A painting can be sold thousands of time the cost to produce. So it would be big riba.

The foolish thing is that he uses jewellery as example saying selling a 10000 for 20000 as riba. He himself is a gold shop owner. He knows that if he sells a ring that cost 1000 at 2000, by mere 3 weeks he will be out of business. Why? Because of the market price and there are competitor. He can con 1 or 2 person for the price, but once it is known, no one will buy from him anymore. So either he is ignorant about the subject to the point of using such a foolish example or he tries to con people into believing in his “fatwa” thinking that they are stupid.

So, what is the meaning of increase (riba)? The Islamic scholars define it in 2 forms; one is riba an-nasiah (increase by time) and riba al-fadl (by unequal exchange of product of same value). Our focus is on riba an-nasiah, i.e. value increase by time. The concept is actually simple. Something will not increase its value by itself upon time if it stays stationary. In simple word, if you take RM 1000 and put it in a drawer, after 1 year the RM 1000 will not become RM 1100. So if you put your money somewhere for 1000 and after one year you collected 1100, the extra of 100 is the INCREASE in value. It is not about how many percent the increase, but it is about an unjustified increase.

When you give a loan of 1000 to a person and collected it after 10 years for 1100, the extra 100 after 10 years is an unjustified increase because if you put that 1000 in your house drawer, even after 1000 years, the amount is still 1000. So how come when you put it to someone the value can increase to 1100 unless the INCREASE is added by the borrower. This increase is known as riba. It is haram because it is equal to giving something less but getting back more.

Well, I know some readers will say, well I can invest your 1000 and make the profit. Ha! Here is the fine line difference between conventional and Islamic banking. This is also the part where they say “trade is similar to riba” (see how poor the translation given by Syed, he says “trade is similar to profiteering” whereas the Arabic word used is riba, not profiteering). In trade or investment, there is no guarantee of profit. You can lose in your investment. But in the ribawi loan, irrespective of whether you make profit or lose, at the end of the day, the lender will collect extra 10%.

Another way of how syed justifies his point is by using example of how he said Islamic bank is “worse” than conventional bank by giving some examples of people who took Islamic loan and unable to service them. I don’t know how the readers can be fooled by such a weak argument. Hello! There are far more people who can’t service their loan using conventional loan transaction. Do you think all the foreclosure in US during the subprime crisis was the result of them taking Islamic loan?

The fact is, you take loan (Islamic or conventional), you can’t pay, so your kereta kena tarik or your house kena foreclose, irrespective of whether your loan is Islamic or not. But you are giving an unfair picture by painting negative image on Islamic loan, whereas the same thing also happens in conventional loan. Some say Islamic loan is unjust because it is more expensive than conventional loan. Well, if you buy smuggled cigarette, it will also be cheaper than legal one because they can be cheaper. Legality may come with extra cost because it protects both parties whereas the haram one probably benefit one side, thus it is cheaper.

I do not want to go lengthy on the issue, buy I just want to tell you all readers, don’t swallow bulat-bulat what this Syed say. It is all from his own definition and his whims and fancies. I have to agree that he is a good writer who knows how to twist word and create sentiment in order to draw more people into believing in him. But remember the Saying of Allah in the Quran (Syed this is from Quran, ok)

Those upon whom the word will have come into effect will say, “Our Lord, these are the ones we led to error. We led them to error just as we were in error. We declare our disassociation [from them] to You. They did not used to worship us.” [28:63]

The Melayu translation is

Mereka yang berhak menerima hukuman (azab Neraka) berkata: Wahai Tuhan kami, inilah mereka yang kami menyebabkan kesesatannya, kami menyebabkan mereka sesat (dengan pilihan mereka sendiri) sebagaimana kami telah sesat (dengan pilihan kami sendiri); (dengan ini) kami mengakui kepadaMu bahawa kami berlepas diri (dari kekufuran mereka). Bukanlah Kami yang mereka puja dan taati, (bahkan mereka hanya memuja dan mentaati hawa nafsu mereka sendiri).

Hypocrisy of Syed Akhbar Ali

I am referring to the blog post by Syed Akhbar Ali at http://syedsoutsidethebox.blogspot.com/2014/01/powerful-tribal-religion-vs-thinking.html

The title is Powerful Tribal Religion vs Thinking. Without further ado in his usual style, he went and whack the host of the program Mehdi Hasan. Among his words are

the host Mehdi Hassan does speak like a Taliban mullah. Even at Oxford the “Club of Doomers” just cannot be normal.

There is so much that Mehdi Hasan takes for granted without thinking

So we can presumably conclude that Mehdi represents the “Tribal Religion” and Irshad Manji represents the “Thinking”. You can view the video a the end of this post.

It is not my point to debate about the video. But what I want to show you is the hypocrisy of this Syed Akhbar Ali who often portray himself as a morally high, intelligent, most advance in thinking person that his school of management supersede the so called Proton School of Management he likes to call upon.

Now here is the interesting part. This is what he said

This type of discussion cannot take place in any Arab or wannabe Arab country – especially countries like Malaysia. This type of dialogue can only take place in societies that uphold real “Islamic values” like thinking and intelligent discussion. In other words the negara maju lah.

This debate took place at the Oxford Union in the UK. Unfortunately even in the UK, the host Mehdi Hassan does speak like a Taliban mullah. Even at Oxford the “Club of Doomers” just cannot be normal.

Wow! I am amaze by the level of openness. Such a person who can utter these words must hold high the moral value of open debate and free speech. Wait a minute.

I responded to his blog post. Below is my comment in his blog post:

I looked into the video for the first 20 minutes and all I can say is that there is nothing being intellectual about this Irshad Manji. She is just an emotional “pretty lady”. Many of her points are based on what she felt rather facts. Her logic and assumptions are also skewed because it is based on her own assumptions, shallow interpretation and a lot of rash generalization. Look at min 16 how she has been put flat by Mehdi on her shallow argument about scholars and interpretation of Islam. The audience even clap which clearly show that he as made a right point.

So it depends on which side you come from. If you go to Malaysia Insider and read the news about DAP bringing ROS to court, you can still see many red beans harping that UMNO is using ROS, ROS is serving UMNO to kill DAP and all the bla bla bla despite clear evidences and clear facts are present. So if your line of thought is like Irshad you will tend to settle like the red bean.

But frankly, argumentatively, Mehdi way supersede Irshad, see min 18min on his sharp argument.

Note: I posted as an anonymous least if he see they grandmarquis name which I use in all my blog comments to be deleted outright

But then, no where you can find my comment appear in his comments list. When I wrote my comment, there were 2 responses. When I wrote this blog post, there were 13 responses. By the order of approval, my response should appear anywhere in between the 3rd to the 13th response. But no where you can find it. All you can see are the responses that echo his line of thought, exactly like how those Red Bean is echoing all the actions of DAP no matter it is right or wrong (the ROS case is a good example).

Well, some may argue that it is his blog and he deserves to do what he likes. But then not for a person who portrays himself as the moral high ground for openness to the point he belittled others as not being open enough for open debate whereas he himself is not even transparent enough to let simple contradicting views to appear in his blog post.

This is and example of hypocrisy at the highest order and it is simply too much to swallow.

If you want to view the video, here it is. You can judge yourself. The first 20 minutes is suffice to tell everything. From an eloquent, vocal, confident lady to a stammer right at minute 18.

p.s. If Syed Akhbar Ali saw this blog post, he might go back and release my post. So be prepared.